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Someone asked me this question on Steve Kirsch Substack, so I'm sharing both the question and the answer here FYI

Q:

What do you think about the possibility that the graphene is not graphene oxide, but rather, it is graphene hydroxide?

A:

CAN YOU IMAGINE IT BEING USED IN MASKS, TESTS, INJECTIONS, FOOD, AIR, ETC.?

Dr. Noack was a real expert on the subject.... As far as I remember, he looked at the spectroscopy results provided by Dr. Campra.

If Dr. Campra was right, Dr. Noack knew the exact answer.

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep07419

But even if it wasn't hydroxide, it's still extremely sharp and toxic. These people are guilty of mass murder.

However, Dr. Noack said it is not biodegradable. But there are studies that it is biodegradable.

Physical damage is one mechanism of damage caused by graphene.

"Furthermore, the sharpened edges of GNS may act as ‘blades’, inserting and cutting through bacterial cell membranes"

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5088662/#CR173

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20925398/

Moreover, the extremely sharp edges of graphene nanowalls were found to damage the membrane of the microorganism by direct contact

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Xiaolong-Tu/publication/266151786_Assessing_in_vivo_toxicity_of_graphene_materials_Current_methods_and_future_outlook/links/54ed849f0cf28f3e65358d15/Assessing-in-vivo-toxicity-of-graphene-materials-Current-methods-and-future-outlook.pdf

How does graphene damage viruses, bacteria and human cells? Graphene is a thin but strong and conductive two-dimensional sheet of carbon atoms. There are three ways that it can help prevent the spread of microbes: – Microscopic graphene particles have sharp edges that mechanically damage viruses and cells as they pass by them.

http://hdreporter.com/health/9646-are-graphene-coated-face-masks-a-covid-19-miracle-or-another-health-risk

Toxicity of graphene-family nanoparticles: a general review of the origins and mechanisms -

PMC Published online 2016 Oct 31. doi: 10.1186/s12989-016-0168-y

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5088662/

In addition, several typical mechanisms underlying GFN toxicity have been revealed, for instance, physical destruction, oxidative stress, DNA damage, inflammatory response, apoptosis, autophagy, and necrosis. In these mechanisms, (toll-like receptors-) TLR-, transforming growth factor β- (TGF-β-) and tumor necrosis factor-alpha (TNF-α) dependent pathways are involved in the signaling pathway network, and oxidative stress plays a crucial role in these pathways.

Another study suggested that the irregular protrusions and sharp edges of the nanosheets could damage the plasma membrane, thus letting G entering the cell by piercing the phospholipid-bilayer (Li Y. et al., 2013). These features raise additional safety concerns, as free GRMs in the cytoplasm may lead to disruption of the cytoskeleton, impaired cell motility and blockade of the cell-cycle, similar to carbon nanotube-induced cytotoxicity. Exposed larvae displayed GO in the CNS and, most importantly, an induction of Parkinson’s disease-like symptoms such as disturbance of locomotor activity, dopaminergic neurons loss and formation of Lewy bodies. These effects were likely a consequence of mitochondrial damage and apoptosis through the caspase 8 pathway, in the presence of a more general metabolic disturbance

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnsys.2018.00012/full

Two recent studies give us a less than rosy angle. In the first, a team of biologists, engineers and material scientists at Brown University examined graphene’s potential toxicity in human cells. They found that the jagged edges of graphene nanoparticles, super sharp and super strong, easily pierced through cell membranes in human lung, skin and immune cells, suggesting the potential to do serious damage in humans and other animals.

https://newatlas.com/graphene-bad-for-environment-toxic-for-humans/31851/

Generally, GFNs may exert different degrees of toxicity in animals or cell models by following with different administration routes and penetrating through physiological barriers, subsequently being distributed in tissues or located in cells, eventually being excreted out of the bodies. This review collects studies on the toxic effects of GFNs in several organs and cell models. We also point out that various factors determine the toxicity of GFNs including the lateral size, surface structure, functionalization, charge, impurities, aggregations, and corona effect etc. In addition, several typical mechanisms underlying GFN toxicity have been revealed, for instance, physical destruction, oxidative stress, DNA damage, inflammatory response, apoptosis, autophagy, and necrosis.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/08/180823113613.htm

A human enzyme can biodegrade graphene

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/anie.201806906

Degradation of Single-Layer and Few-Layer Graphene by Neutrophil Myeloperoxidase

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One of the theories of the whitish rubbery abnormal blood clots found in dead people is the graphene oxide in some shot lots slices up the blood cells and the cytoplasm leaks out and congregates somewhere, causing abnormal blood clots. All other normal clots I've seen are all red, made of platelets and clotting factors. The rubbery clots of the vaccinated tend to be mostly white or off white with a little bit of red.

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Nice and conscientious collection. Why is this not an article in itself? It would well deserve to be one.

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I recall that some proportion is the oxide and some the hydroxide and that there is movement between the two moieties which makes sense. I think Noack said it someplace.

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Good post, Outraged Human. They're always truth leak broadcasting their operations to us. We just have to have eyes to see... Appreciate that you have eyes to see. Yes, we are now in the black goo xenobot hybridnanogolem infiltration era. No escape. Detox Detox Detox. Stay on top of the antinano detox baths. If I figure out what truly works, I'll post in the comments, I'm still figuring it out.

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I am still alive, because I was sitting around quietly for nearly a year. The whole thing started, when a newly-injected breathed on me a few times during a conversation in a store (she said she was not muzzled anymore, because she had taken the injection); it only took about five minutes, and after going back to the car, I never felt as sick as that in my life. It lasted about three weeks, but weakness, rapid heartbeat, and copious sweating (I guess, a form of detox) ensued. Couldn't even mow the lawn all summer in 22. Occasionally, for ulcer-like symptoms, aloe vera gel and living clay helped, and that took only a few weeks. Repeated poisoning, however, is remaining a problem, and whenever the "smart" water meter sends in its signals, my heart starts pumping hard. I don't know how much longer detox can keep up with the rate of poisoning and its radiation-based activators.

Whatever these toxins are, physical exertion seems to speed up their detrimental impact, which made think about the reason why exercise is recommended so much. Even wrote a piece about it yesterday:

https://rayhorvaththesource.substack.com/p/the-weaponization-of-exercise

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Same, Ray. My 1st transfection occurred after being in a meeting w/a newly injected person. It only took a short time before on onset of odd, alarming symptoms hit me, hard, then became increasingly worse. Was literally horrifying, unlike anything I'd ever experienced in my 62 yrs, felt very synthetic, like, a severe poisoning. It affected my neurological/vascular/circulatory/cardiac systems all at once. Truly never felt so afraid or close to death, as I fought to stay alive, daily, & lasted over 2 very long mo's, 24/7, before I finally recovered. However, not w/o lasting symptoms of obvious injury. Had 2 - similar incidents after that, only not as severe as the first. Also, have reactions & immediate symptoms everytime, after being anywhere out in public, exposed to any vaxxed now. So, I spend most my time isolated & only go out shopping, paying bills, etc, when it can't be avoided & absolutely necessary. Very sad, especially when I used to be a very outgoing, social person, & loved being in the company of others.

I also notice negative effects when the smart meter signals kicks in - dizziness, weakness, headaches, loud thumping in my ears, pressure in my head, rapid, hard heart pounding, & arrhythmias, which is an ongoing problem for me.

Stay strong, as healthy & as protected as you can, Ray. Sending sincere well wishes & positive energy your way.

Thanks for sharing.

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Denise,

I was luckier than you, because the feeling that I was about to die lasted "only" about five minutes; a powerful vertigo combined with utter weakness. I had to close my eyes, lie down in the car, and wait. After the five minutes, I sat up and drove home. Further complications came only after that and they never ceased completely, except for a few weeks recently, but they are back, although not as bad as they used to be.

The symptoms you are describing are all present here, too, except that my wife has some and I have the rest. In addition to that, my wife, may have been bitten by (GMO?) chiggers or collected some morgellons last spring, while gardening. Her skin looked ugly with hundreds of tiny red protruding spots around her ankles and the itching lasted several months. Eventually, the skin healed and the itching became less frequent, suggesting it will go away, but it has been about eight months by now. She has been using rubber boots since then for gardening (she always wore gloves), and a few days ago we bought a used riding mower from a neighbor for $200 and, previously, rubber boots for me, too. :)

Thank you for your good wishes; the same to you. Will also remember you.

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Yes, that vertigo symptom & weakness is troublesome, to say the least, & frightening. Two nights ago, I had an immediate onset of that, again, while walking to my kitchen, & with no warning whatsoever. I had been out running errands that very day, earlier. There are many days I won't & can't even drive due to these symptoms. So frustrating, especially living alone & no help.

Interesting about your wife's red spots! Several months ago the same happened to me. Noticed my abdominal area was itching. When I went to look, I had hundreds of tiny red micro dots everywhere. No idea what caused that. Thankfully, that went away, but took awhile.

Idk about you, but the chemtrails are very heavy here (WI) & I'm 100% convinced they are also contributing to ongoing illness & side effects as well, as I've never had any of these ongoing symptoms before. Not to this degree anyway.

Thank you so much for your kind words, for replying & sharing. I'll remember to keep you & your wife in my thoughts & prayers.

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Chemtrails heavy in central Florida too. Can relate to both of you. I have a phone cover that helps from safe sleeve & a piece of silver fabric I use when holding my phone. I carefully pick what social events I go to, can’t handle as many as I used to. I was very angry at first since I’ve been healing from autoimmune issues and biotoxin mold illness so I expected to jump back into the world with both feet. Substack has been a blessing to me . & Constant gentle detox and faith

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I find it frustrating too, not being able to socialize, etc, as I'd like to..

Substack has been an enormous blessing, I look fwd to and spend most my time there.

Thanks again for everything, Rosalind.

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Thanks Ray. 💌

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Start with borax in the bathtub. Helped my morgellons a lot. I took them 5 or 6 days a week for a year,& heavy metal detox ( Metagenics by prescription). & daily detox teas, supplements, & mold exercise and faith.

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Rosalind, HI! Rosalind, yes, I got the antinano detox bath recipe of 1 cup borax, 2 cups baking soda, 2 cups sea salt, and option to also add in bentonite clay etc., And yup, definitely praying about it every day. Rosalind, are you clear from it now?? Or is it still present and lingering? If you're at liberty to say / share.

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The morgellons is better, I’m being treated for biotoxin mold illness now from an integrative medicine doctor unaffiliated with insurance companies. Slowly making progress on that. When I first met my doctor, I started mentioning morgellons, he put his hand on my shoulder and interrupted me & said the protocol will help all of your issues.

I’ve been on similar to Zelenko protocol for over 5 years. Glad you know about the borax baths. Some people take it internally too, I stuck with my dr recommendations. My leaky gut has healed after about 5 years working on it. That makes everything work better. I will keep you in my prayers! I truly believe God has guided me towards healing, even when it didn’t feel like He was there.

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Rosalind, Hi! Thanks so much for sharing, I really appreciate it. Well I'm glad that you were guided to a worthwhile practitioner, and that your protocols are progressively building improvement steadily. I'm really glad. Sounds like you're getting there. (and, yup, I'm drinking the Borax water daily) (For me, for the time being, no other issues except for the blood being abnormally coagulated, and that my skin in the extremities (hands, arms, legs, feet) now has a "ghost in the machine" so to say. Is now a shape-shifting morphing-manifestations skin which has been overtaken by the nano's software. It's really fascinating, albeit disturbing and life-altering. Definitely demon-inspired technology, without question. Rosalind, I'm grateful for your prayers on my behalf-- thanks a million. Hug.

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It’s the most uncomfortable feelings & quite painful. Glad you have a handle on it, it’s horrifyingly fascinating, absolutely. I think people who are pure hearted tend to be “ targeted “. I was so disappointed when Joni Mitchell didn’t speak out about having morgellons. At one point I couldn’t drive safely, it was so distracting. I went to the loony bin for 5 days to rest.( had a bad roommate at the time making things worse, anyway) they told me I had delusional parasitosis but gave me premithirin treatment and didn’t write it in my chart. They gaslit me. At the time it was embarrassing but in the big picture, it was ok I had to resort to that. When I got home I slowly weaned off my 8 prescriptions for autoimmune issues, kept my thyroid medication and that’s it. That made it easier once I met my integrative medicine doctor. He said it saved a year, having weaned off the pharmaceutical medication. Some people have committed suicide because of the morgellons and not getting any respect from insurance dictated doctors!

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Hi Rosalind,

I, too, am happy to hear you're improving. I find your story & info fascinating, also very helpful. I couldn't agree more about the pure hearted being targeted.

I've found, especially over the past 3-yrs, I've become increasingly hypersensitive to all frequencies in general now. Have had many frightening experiences due to it. Am also immunocompromised, due to a spine injury, which later led to MS & severe fibromyalgia. I'm diligent about taking immune system boosting supplements, however, am still struggling. I've had a very difficult time with all the shedding/transmission. Am certain one incident/transfection did great damage & led to a heart attack this past August.

Due to negligence & poor care, I ended up having to fire both my PCP & Cardiologist. I'd so love to find an Integrative MD, Holistic or Naturopath Dr.

Unfortunately, I'm not in a position where I can afford any out of pocket expenses, therefore, just doing my best to do as I can, at home, on my own. That, coupled with my faith in God, that is.

I'm open to any suggestions, if you have any to share.

Thank you, Rosalind.

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Rosalind, hi ! Rosalind, thanks for sharing that further backstory. It all rings true, what you report. I noticed that even amongst the "Covid Truth Community", talk of this operation (A.I.-engineered synbionano / Carnicom's synthetic biology seeding of the population for transhumanistic Fourth Industrial Revolution agendas) seems to meet with a lot of silence / cognitive dissonance. It's THE HUGEST "the real-story" operation taking place of our time, but even in the "Truth Community", I sense that the majority (--understandably--) are maybe shut down to it deep in the subconscious mind and don't wanna go there / face it / are skeptical of it / turn their face away from it quickly. I'm grateful that individuals such as Clifford Carnicom, Harald Kautz-Vella, Celeste Solum, Lee Merritt, Carrie Madej and Ed Group have openly gone on record about this operation. Over the past two years Carrie Madej has really given the goods on what she knows about the backstory to this operation. And I definitely feel like God protected her through that plane crash incident. Rosalind, you've been through the mill, and I'm so glad that unlike the countless others who were driven to suicide, you've made it through this far. It's really encouraging. Sounds like God has been with you too, for sure. I can definitely see why this biohacking scenario would drive individuals to suicide. It's totally isolating and you for the most part, cannot talk about it on any serious understood level with anyone in your real -life circle. Thats been my experience so far, anyway. It's a very rare, tiny sliver of the general population that is up on this, or that is curious to investigate it and learn more, or that can handle it. The "targeted individuals" community is very open-minded, as you can imagine. And of course the Morgellon's community, since they've been living it since the late 90s and were the debut phase nano-in-vivo guinea pigs without consent. We are so not in Kansas anymore, it's not even funny. Just like with 9/11, ""they" leaked about this operation for several years already in tv shows and movies and cartoons etc., X-files had an episode in 1999 titled "S.R. 819", in 2007 the animated film Vexille, in 2009 the film G.I. Joe The Rise of Cobra, in 2011 the series Supernatural in Season 7 episode 6 it's shown that Borax is the one substance that disables / deteriorates the black goo demons, in 2010 there was the debut of the online game "Microbots":

(Oct 18 2010) https://www.ign.com/videos/microbot-teaser-trailer

(Jan 5 2011) https://www.ign.com/videos/microbot-launch-trailer

(Feb 1 2015) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxJPceCV51g

(Jan 23 2015) https://www.ign.com/articles/2015/01/23/scientists-have-successfully-used-self-destructing-nanobots-on-living-mice

(2010) https://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/MicroBot/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d80258410a9c

(2010) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MicroBot

Rosalind, great to exchange with you ! See you around substack town! heh heh...........

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Hi Rabbit girl,

I've heard about the detox baths, but can you tell me more about the borax water you're drinking, as to how much borax & water, & frequency? Also, about the baths - I've not tried this yet, but am curious what, if anything, you use to moisturize the skin after, from the drying effects? I know coconut oil is beneficial, both internally & externally. Thanks for anything you can share on this.

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Denise, HI. Sure. The Borax water daily is basically: 1 tsp of Borax dissolved into 1 litre of drinking water. (i think with this condition, quality distilled is the way to go, as far as drinking water. Either distill it yourself with a home unit, or see if Mountain Valley Spring delivers the 5 gallon cooler size in your area, they offer distilled in 5 gallon glass for home delivery). Denise, regarding the post-bath substances-- At the moment, I'm not applying any additional moisturizers, but that's just because I've always been a non-moisturizer person. But you know what? I was reading through the pages of a body-nano removal expert "Bryan 396", and applying oils and moisturizers after the detox baths are an important part of his nano-removal protocol. I just discovered him today, so I'm gonna try to get in touch with him for his protocols guidance. His approach is different from Tony P.'s anti-nano bucket-ing approach. I'll paste Bryan 396's websites so you can check it out or write to him for his bath procedures guidance: Bryan339966@gmail.com

Iondetox@bryan396.com (that's an "i" as in "ion" not an "L")

vimeo.com/bryan396

https://www.flickr.com/people/bryan396/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/bryan396/

www.flickr.com/photos/bryan396/albums/72157718115504243

https://www.flickr.com/people/bryan396/

https://wimkin.com/Bryan396

https://bryan339966.wixsite.com/bryan396

https://vimeo.com/bryan396.com

https://www.bryan396iondetox.com/

https://www.bio-graphene.com/

https://www.minds.com/bryan396/

https://donorbox.org/br-ion396-research-detox-nesessary-enhancement-and-detox-support-products-donation-pool

https://www.facebook.com/people/Ionic-Formula-Page-of-videos-etc/100064279591370/

https://www.facebook.com/BRYAN396

https://www.facebook.com/Bryan396DNA/

https://www.facebook.com/Chemtrails396/

https://www.facebook.com/Bryan396396/

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Wouldn't sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) do the same as borax? People have been using that for heartburn for a long time, although I'm not sure how happy their kidneys are about that. Still alkalizing, in general, is a good idea, even without detox.

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Rabbit Gurl, have you seen the work of Tony's? Here is his site. He has been researching and having success with nano detox for years.

https://augmentinforce.50webs.com

I'm interested in your thoughts. He also has a YT channel:

https://youtu.be/xgnv7oJsCuk

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I listened to an interview that mentioned zeolite and Prussian Blue.

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To say those lyrics, the photos, & these people are disturbing, would be a gross understatement, on my part.

This technology & entire agenda, is so demonic & evil.

One must truly wear the full armor of God ( at all times) to stay sane & survive all this.

Thank you, Outraged.🙏

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You are most welcome.

For MS I have looked at testimonies of people drinking green juices/fasting/diet (also supplements-antioxidants)

Research examines intermittent fasting's effects for multiple sclerosis - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNzmH7BOj7Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCyCRIJ5Hw8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WHn6DFZmwk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fn4hDG_Oz0A

World’s largest Fasting Study (2020) | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b-EqKYv314

These things, in fact, overlap

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Thank you for all your links, Outraged.

I do practice intermediate fasting to induce autophagy, which does help. However, I do need to be mindful & careful w/this, as I find my blood sugar plummets, which is another problem in itself. I started " grounding/earthing" as well, when the weather here was warmer. I recently was gifted a grounding mat (for inside), which I'd been wanting quite some time. I was amazed the immediate improvement in my circulation etc, after I'd first started this practice. It absolutely works, does help, & has many benefits to improve overall health. Actually spoke w/a radiology tech at the hospital, who'd said she never goes to Drs, & never ever gets sick, because she's been " grounding" for 30 yrs now. I'm a believer & will be using this method in my daily routine going forward.

I'll be watching the links you provided.

Thanks again. So very much appreciated.

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How much money has Greta made prostituting herself for the climate propaganda?

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They are pulling all stops - letting the filth drizzle right on everything and our children.

It is good to voice our dissent, and the clearer, and the louder, the better.

Spread the message as best you might.

Our lives degenerate, otherwise, or so I hold to be true.

Strength to Endure and to Triumph!

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Thanks for thinking for yourself! Hidden in plain sight.

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My response is a Bob Dylan song from 1979 album Slow Train

Song "Slow Train"

I begin with stanza 4

........

Man's ego is inflated, his laws are outdated, they don't apply no more

You can't rely no more to be standing around waiting

In the home of the brave, Jefferson turning over in his grave

Fools glorifying themselves, trying to manipulate Satan

And there's slow, slow train coming up around the bend.

Big-time negotiators, false healers and woman haters

Masters of the bluff and masters of the proposition

But the enemy I see wears a cloak of decency

All non-believers and men stealers talking in the name of religion

And there's slow, there's slow train coming up around the bend.

People starving and thirsting, grain elevators are bursting

Oh, you know it costs more to store the food than it do to give it

They say loose your inhibitions, follow your own ambitions

They talk about a life of brotherly love, show me someone who knows how to live it

There's slow, slow train coming up around the bend.

Well, my baby went to Illinois with some bad-talking boy she could destroy

A real suicide case, but there was nothing I could do to stop it

I don't care about economy, I don't care about astronomy

But it's sure do bother me to see my loved ones turning into puppets

There's slow, slow train coming up around the bend.

"Slow Train" Bob Dylan 1980

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Black pooh.

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🤣

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Forgot to mention hot baths as a detox method. Sauna would be better, but only a few have access or can afford that. I certainly don't and can't:

https://needtoknow.news/2023/01/study-shows-traditional-finnish-sauna-baths-reduce-premature-death-by-a-whopping-40/

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